![]() ![]() The sub isn’t the issue for me…I already have one as part of my recovery system. It is mathematically true and correct…but who cares at that point.Īs long as you still have your car or son or buried in the yard or wherever you’ve hidden the paper copy…you can recover from this problem…and without paper someplace you can’t recover from the problem anyway if you lose all devices…because nobody is remembering their secret key. Once you choose a master password and DB password that give you security for centuries using a massive offline cracking scenario as illustrated by Steve Gibson’s Haystacks page…the fact that you could do something to increase the time from 10,000 centuries to a million of them is completely irrelevant. Using DB means that 2 services have to be compromised instead of 1 which is more secure to me…and in any event better security is the enemy of good enough security. That sounds like BS to force you to sub…the algorithm that uses both could easily run locally…it’s just computer code. They claim that their master password and Secret Key combo is more secure than DropBox and master password…and that’s why they can’t support non sub accounts. Alternatively…my DropBox folder gets backed up in several places so as long as one of those is available I can use my new iPhone to recover.Įven with the sub…you still need to get something to your survivors…in my case it’s a hard copy of the recovery key and a hard copy of password manager, device, and computer passwords that he has in his safe. At that point…I would have to pullout my own piece of paper. You still have a chicken and egg issue though…you need both your master password and the long and non-rememberable secret key to get in. The chances of losing all devices, all my wife’s devices, and the paper copy our son has of the 5 of 6 passwords that get to the rest is pretty low. I have a sub as well…but my main vault is on DropBox and their copy is a backup. I just don’t think that a large number of users even need a PW manager beyond what Safari provides (present company excluded, of course), and overall security that Apple continues to improve. etc.īest of luck to whoever owns 1Password now. Continues through schemes involving recovery with BackBlaze backups, etc. Starts with shared files in iCloud, encrypted and password protected of course. I’m also happy for local storage and an outright purchase.įor my real bucket list (“Here’s what to do if I die”) I’m working, while consulting Kissell’s book, of course, on a variety of methods to maintain a chain for recovery in the event of various disasters. Family sharing = useless due to empty nest and impossibility of getting spouse to use a password manager (making slow progress with Safari passwords/keychain)Įnpass meets my needs and I’ve been surprised how good it is.Ceaseless cutesy icons and breezy air = somewhat nauseating.Java “app” written for platform universality vice Mac specific program = bad.Cloud only storage with no local files = bad.I started with 1Password4 in 2014 and never thought I’d change but now it’s time to move away. Today my annual rent was due for 1Password7. I would like to see them provide some type of off-the-grid, break-glass functionality like this. There’s no reason we can’t have both cloud advantages and independence but 1P would have to accommodate. Now, none of this implies that 1P couldn’t or shouldn’t use an open database format that could also be backed up locally. You’ll quickly pay the subscription fee.īy using their hosted product, I only need a web browser and my 1Password credentials to bootstrap. ![]() Try documenting the process for your loved ones. What if I lose all my devices? What if I’m gone someday and my family has to figure out how to get into things? (See the “Digital Legacy” book). But that’s not a good disaster recovery policy. Normally I could fetch the Dropbox password from another device already using 1Password. But my Dropbox password was in 1Password. I couldn’t get 1Password running until I got Dropbox running. It finally hit me after setting up some new devices that I was dealing with a chicken and egg problem. But I have lost more data while “rolling my own” than I ever did in the cloud.īut there’s another, key reason I finally moved my 1Password database from Dropbox to. ![]() I don’t like paying subscription fees or trusting others with my data.
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